Posts by Vyenna

At the moment I am writing this post SG2 Global is being merged into SG server, increasing the potential number of players. This move will have a certain impact in the near future and I will try to highlight what will change. So, let's begin:

1. The server population since the 4th of November - estimation on the number of players and predictions for the future;
2. Market Situation since the 4th of November - analysis over market evolution and predictions for the future;
3. Focus points for beginners and advanced players.

1. The server population since the 4th of November - estimation on the number of players and predictions for the future

As I said in the previous post, the big changes brought to live server in november increased the server population to 100-120. My biggest surprise came with the incompetent reaction the governments had facing the medical crisis unfolding over the world. I don't think I have seen so many players for so long time in this server. If i were to guess a number, I would say over 300 players were actively playing on SG in the months of lockdown. But with the summer season advancing in northern hemisphere and the easing of restrictions, that number did melt quite fast. Now, some active players from Global have the chance to continue their journey here. So, for a while, we will enjoy again the presence of over 300 players in total, but it is not going to last for ever. Obviously, there are several factors which influence the number of players:

• interest in playing the game for more than several weeks;
• interest in developing the characters to reach end-game content;
• basic knowledge of marketing and economics;
• the presence of a friendly or hostile community already playing the game;
• the features of the game and the guarantee of future updates.

If I take these into account, not everyone who starts playing here will keep playing. The community is not always friendly, especially the dinosaurs and not everyone has the tools and the patience to play here. What are we going to have today will start decreasing in about 3 months and no update will make it better. Mainly, next updates are for high lv players and contain stuff a mid lv player will never need and won't ever use. I don't think there will be another incompetent response from the authorities again so no, we won't have more players.

2. Market Situation since the 4th of November - analysis over market evolution and predictions for the future

What most players do is basic farming and upgrading items. Many of them don't intend to lv up and they usually farm the same stuff over and over again. This gets to market saturation and the crash of prices on farmed items. Obviously, most players don't understand somebody has to use what they farm. Getting items is too easy, upgrading is easy, getting perfect stats is again too easy so there are many farmers and not enough players to use the available stuff. The merge will solve this problem for a while, since the new players will need better stones and some new items with new stats. Again, this is only a temporary relief, since we will go back to a market crash in a short time, of 3-6 months the most. Future updates, like Meley and Zodiac won't do it, higher lv items won't do it. Players should lv up and build PvP gear, that will solve the situation but it is not going to happen.

3. Focus points for beginners and advanced players

This game, after all its updates, after all its patches, it is still meant to be played over a large period of time. It is easy to get good items, for perfection some effort is needed. All you need is a good understanding of the game and some good items. Over time, as you get higher lv, you will need some farmers because higher you go, there is much more work to do. Farm upgrade materials, store some for later use and put some for sale. Farm poly marbles because they will get you good money, I made a guide about them, use it. Lv up, don't keep the same lv for way too long. Don't forget that somebody has to consume what you farm. Build good and very good items with what you farm, sell the excessive stuff. The server is quite generous with its drops, you should become very good very fast. The PvM aspect is very easy and pushes players to maximize their profit by playing alone. Don't be that type of player, create and maintain a constant team play even if you cut in half your profit.

I wish you all to have fun, patience and only good luck.

Kind Regards!

Vyenna

If players are trying to lv up above 85 (how they got 85 without a good knowledge of the game is a mystery to me) look no further than here. This is the type of gear i use every day for metins, hl1/2 farming, most of the runs we have. I am 115 so I think you should follow my example and build your own gear in the same way.

There is no value in the rarity system that has been lost after this update. You can very well keep doing both runs and pvp without any change. If you talk about the market value, well, sorry to spoil it for you, but it is completely artificial. You guys want to stay on top and be recognized as such.

You have a NO from me. If I was against those adders and changers only in the item mall, crafting them is a different feature which I fully support.

Ice Run is for players lv 90 and higher.

Demon Tower is exactly the same, mage buffs have the same duration and the attack speed for mage works now in the sense it no longer requires 20 more secs for breaking a metin stone. However it is not faster than using only 147 or less attack speed, damage looks the same.

Hey there!

Rarity system is the 6/7 bonus on items, which you can't change when you roll the other 5 stats on the items. In SG items drop clean (no bonus on them), with regular random bonus, with rarity bonus and with combined regular and rarity stats. The only way to get increased drop of rarity items is dedicate more time to farming. Use item mall glove, 2 hrs glove and 20% drop on earrings and bracelet and just kill mobs and metins.

Tec Interactive Pte Ltd does not get involved in account trading. Trading of accounts must be done privately and at your own risk. It's not allowed to advertise account trading in our official forums or game chat.

Really Pooker, ignoring Terms and Conditions?

Here, see for yourself https://www.metin2sg.com/TandC

The skill duration of blessing is 310 secs, the effect of the skill-the protective close combat damage reduction expires after 310 secs. It does what it says on the description and nothing more, nothing less. I would notice if there were a 50% increase in its duration. It isn't.

Do you want some answers from the Staff? or just any answer will do?

Having two servers instead of one is for the better, because there are players like me, only playing here and there are other players who only play on Global. Those who claim to be playing both servers are lying, they aren't doing much in any of the servers.

SG had to receive a change for quite a while now and since it looks pretty much the same with Global, ye, that's for a future merge. I am not saying it is going to happen, it is easier now than it would be with different file systems. It is easier for players to join this one and develop their chars, it is easier for old players to play again under a new light. Btw, the patch still needs some work, there are certain aspects to fix but it looks much better now than the last 10 months.

Btw you should read Vyenna more often, you would have less questions to ask. I am not taking a merge into account into my predictions about the future of the server because it is too distant in time. Maybe late 2020 - mid 2021, it depends on the guys in Global and if they continue to play according to my models.

"We want the changes from server 2" they said.

"Guys, don't forget server 1" some others wrote in forum.

Now, you have the change and you don't like it because it doesn't pay off your investment in gear and it puts you on the same foot with metin farmers. Maybe is time to move on, try other runs, lv up? Neah, we can agree to disagree in here.

Maybe this is supposed to be a serious talk but I can't help myself and I'll just troll you a little:

Shadow please help the dinosaurs and revise the plagued run drop so they can have more cash and no players around!

Guys, can you do something about the red guild chat, it is way too dark for me, can't you just make the color more light?

1. My views on the latest update on the November Patch;

2. The future of SG Server;

3. The Art of Fail: the only way SG community of players will work to ruin current update.

Before I start, I have a request to all of my readers (I know I don't have many readers): please refrain from posting in this guide if you only want to argue with me about certain parts of my posts. Also, the talk about x or y update doesn't belong here. So please, if You want to bring more information to future players, write it here or make your own guide. Don't add useless replies when you can create a debate post under general section of this Forum.

A huge change came to our server few days ago. At this moment, SG server and SG2Global have pretty much the same content. This prepares the way for a future merge of both servers in maybe 1-2 years. For now, starting and playing on SG has become extremely interesting and a pleasant experience. The Pay2Win character of SG server is gone. An active player can reach end-game content in a decent amount of time.

The list of all the changes made is on the link above. I will not review them all, since is a huge list. I will only offer my impression on them.

There has been an improvement into the farming mechanics and character development and this is the most important change. Maps are now full with metin stones and the drop of them is oriented into building items and making skills. Better drop rate for adders and changers, hermits and exo scrolls. Faster skill books reading and improved bio quests mechanics. Almost anything can stack and the extra inventory makes farming easier. And maybe what most players love, the shop search F11 function. Mages and Assassins have 35% more pvm damage but it is not like they will be as effective farmers as Warrior and Sura. It can help in certain runs but this is pretty much it.

If playing is easy now, it is time to go to 2nd point of my post.

Metin2 is an old game which is still played here and there. Not as much as it has been in the past and over time the number of players is going to decrease. The life of the server can and will be increased with patches and updates but is not going to last forever.

For now, the current changes will have a huge impact on the gameplay. Some players who went to SG2Global can now play both servers. Other people from that server will be moving here to experience a better gameplay. And I expect new players who are strange of SG concept to start and attempt to develop here. For now the server population has tripled, so we now have an estimated number of over 100 at any given moment in time. This however will not last very long and this will be the subject of 3rd point.

The market is going to change slowly, with the introduction of massive drops from metins - changers, adders, hermits and exo scrolls. The drop rate is pretty high, so there will be plenty of them available in most shops. Their price is going to get low and very low, so everyone is going to afford them. Of course, making huge amount of money by selling these materials is going to prove difficult. Players will search now for blessing scrolls and upgrade materials to build their items, skill books are going to be on the top list for skills' build. There is going to be an increased need for stones for items (pvm stones mostly). Higher the player population going to be, the faster market saturation with items is going to happen. From that point, less and less players are going to enjoy the game so the population will get lower.

There is not going to be any increase in PvP activity, this is something that belongs to the past. Even though PvP has been nerfed to the max possible and is now accessible to everyone, no major battles are going to take place. Farming is much more relaxing than trying to respond to all kind of threats from different players. The game AI is predictable, players aren't.

On a recent post in this guide i talked about the models that decide how the server population is increasing or getting lower. They for a theoretical model that blends the real world with the game world and predicts players will react in this game as they see in the real world. The market is of a capitalist type, everyone can and should own a business (shop) and perform a list of activities: farming, mining, fishing and fighting. Players are going to be in a constant search for perfection with better and better items, always searching for ways to make gold and ways to crush new players. Market saturation is going to happen really fast this time, since there is very much available to farm and the number of potential consumers is still low. One of the things I am asked about is the price of certain items or ways to make gold. You are not supposed to make gold, you are supposed to play and enjoy the game and later on, when you will have several years on the server, you will also understand the game. This is the part where most players fail, because they will like to solo everything, obtain maximum advantage from their investment (time and money) and always be the best players, uncontested.

It doesn't really work like this, I predicted the server will get to a point the Team is going to drastically change the game and the change has happened.

For the future of the server, players should learn to play together and make runs together, regardless of rewards the most runs have NOW. If there is going to be better cooperation instead of competition the drops might be changed. If players are going to keep doing everything solo the game will be boring again and everyone will whine and quit. However, I will not hold my breath on such a change coming from player community. Past experience showed me who has the power will not hesitate to use it, to farm more, decide the prices and who should farm in a spot and who doesn't.

So, to conclude this post, changes are good, there is only need of some will from the players to understand the reason of those changes and to reconsider their way of playing. My best guess is that it is not going to happen, population will get lower again because it is not the updates that keep us here but the community of friends and enemies.

Thanks for reading, if you will ever bother to reach to the end

Kind Regards and all the best!

Vyenna

Should I post here my plagued equipment? I don't know, I did many runs in the past, sometimes you have to adapt and understand why certain rewards have to be changed.

Farming gold affects me because I will have to also farm gold. Dunno why you consider worthy of opinion only those who agree with you.

The more drops a run has, lower the prices should be, if you chose to sell the drop and not hide it somewhere. I said Odins will not drop, only poly. You want an update that will help you get the gold without the trouble of selling the items. It is not the server situation that you care about that much, like you wrote in the first post in this thread.

Since you are looking for answers, go to Basics for Beginners guide and check again the 3 models I am explaining there. You can chose to play the game or dictate the pace of the game using my 3 models. The choice is yours.

Poly will drop because at one point you will stop doing runs for the little reward you get and you will focus more on hell/aqua dragon. No, odins will not drop anytime soon. But if you keep farming gold you will make sure the prices will remain high, when you are supposed to have items and fun and not useless gold.

BTW, nice trick with the removal of the other option from your poll

Farming gold instead of items is the worst idea for a server. While you can farm gold, others can't, you can afford to buy anything and prices will keep increasing. While the reward might be reworked, red adders/changers aren't that bad. Of course, with the current adjustments, prices will drop to a point it will no longer be viable for you to keep them in shop. Right now a rough estimation would be in 30 days green changers 3-500k, 2-3kk for red changers and 5-10kk blue changers..

Saying this, I am against the idea to be able to farm gold in a run, no matter the investment you made to be able to solo that run. We have to see if lower prices will begin to make new players to join this server or the update came way too late for any change to make a difference.

Unless I missed it somehow, why do blue changers drop from metins?

Grudge dmg seems the same to me;

There are no autopots at general store;

Why do hexagonal boxes drop in game right now?

Why do metins in Thunder drop sometimes 2x soul stone?

Anniversary boxes have wrong text with 8th anniversary of Global server

You guys need to patch the patch, skill books are on stealth mode

Friday, 1st of November at 17 00 server time you can go on the Search for the hidden clams. I will hide 5 clams in map1 and you are invited to find them. The event is announced here in forum and here is the only place you can find information about it. I will not announce in game when it starts and which map and CH. So, here you go:

CH2, Asmodia map1, Joan Area, 5 shops with one clam each at 1 gold will be hidden in the same time. You are invited to find them all.

CH3 Heaven Lair 2 is not responding, farming 15 keys for dragon usually takes one hour 40 minutes, with only 2 chs available it will take 2 hrs and 40 minutes.